forums | Good short film on the Brexit effect of the FT; surely there’s no one left who… by unstableblue
|Good short film on the Brexit effect of the FT; there is surely no one left who… 09:11 – October 24 with 313 views||unstableblue|
|… think it was a good idea
My real concern is that the Conservatives are in such disarray that any attempt to establish a new relationship with the EU is being ruled out
And Labor are so desperate for power that they won’t even mention the ‘B’ word in their manifesto, and yet solving our trade relationship is probably our number 1 problem
And who holds Boris, Farage, the ERG and the right-wing press responsible for the misinformation about the voting holidays??
At least there can’t be anyone on TWTD anymore who thinks that was a good idea, surely?! Step one, admit the mistake, step two, admit the magnitude and priority of the problem, step three, create an inter-parliamentary mandate to renegotiate a lasting relationship where compromises will have to be made and the English bath tubing must be removed
|Good short film on the Brexit effect of the FT; there is surely no one left who… on 09:15 – October 24 with 277 views||WD19|
|According to a poll last month, apparently among those expressing a preference, 54% would now vote to join the EU while only 46% would support staying out.|
|These surveys are still not representative of the extent of the problem! on 09:24 – October 24 with 256 views||unstableblue|
Given the clear evidence, 70% should join
But confirmation bias in the age of the algorithm is a huge thing and people won’t give up on Brexit.
I do however notice a drastic shift in reporting and focus…this showed up in my feed after my previous post:
|These surveys are still not representative of the extent of the problem! on 09:32 – October 24 with 234 views||dark_koont|
I’m a huge Remainer and I think we scored a huge own goal by leaving the EU and also clueless.
But it’s also true that the Brexit debate has divided the country and dominated our politics to the exclusion of even more important things like the environment, like our already shabby, unbalanced economy and hollowed-out society, like stagnant wages, food insecurity, lack of housing, millions of poor children, etc.
To resurrect this fight again seems like a terrible idea as Brexiteer extremists continue to gain mainstream capital and, more importantly, no one is really addressing the larger underlying issues either.
|Good short film on the Brexit effect of the FT; there is surely no one left who… on 09:39 – October 24 with 195 views||Ecclesiastical|
|Brexit is the number one cause of the death spiral we find ourselves in. Forget the pandemic or Putin. They did not help, but are not the main cause.
The problem is that the argument for leaving was mostly based on hate and rhetoric, not substance. The same people like Weird Mogg, Swivel-Eyed Farage and co always get airtime and people like three of my friends (who are surprisingly smart people) get the benefit. They dug their trench and are firmly at the bottom of it.
The next steps are blindingly obvious, but no politician dares say or do anything about it.
|These surveys are still not representative of the extent of the problem! on 10:47 – October 24 with 135 views||deliasprunes|
I agree. Part of me also thinks that those who voted for this really need to see and feel the consequences of their actions. We should not seek to join until it is apparent and the scam architects are dealt with by those they scammed.
|These surveys are still not representative of the extent of the problem! on 10:51 – October 24 with 107 views||blue badger|
Banksy is coming in 5…..4…..
|Good short film on the Brexit effect of the FT; there is surely no one left who… on 11:04 – October 24 with 83 views||EdwardStone|
|Sorry Mr Dunstable, I politely disagree. There are legions who still believe in Brexit
Because facts no longer matter, everything is decided by perception and opinion.
Brexit was never sold as a fact, it was presented as a belief; once if you want.
Presenting a series of facts won’t really convince Leave supporters that they were wrong.
The situation cannot be resolved at the moment, the wound is too deep and the divisions are too deep. Everything has to get worse before we can start campaigning to join in some form.
I think we have been hit by a series of blows, Covid, the Ukraine war, Brexit and to a lesser extent the catastrophic mini budget.
Some of them were entirely predictable and avoidable, others less so.
But everything will continue to have a negative effect on our well-being
Good luck everyone, rough seas ahead
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